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Carl Traugott Riedel: Porträt des Ludwig van Beethoven  wikidata:Q131764634 reasonator:Q131764634
Artist
Carl Traugott Riedel (1769–)  wikidata:Q30302326
 
Alternative names
Karl Traugott Riedel
Description German engraver
Date of birth/death 1769 Edit this at Wikidata after 1832
date QS:P,+1832-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1319,+1832-00-00T00:00:00Z/9
 Edit this at Wikidata
Location of birth Lubań
Work period between circa 1800 and circa 1832
date QS:P,+1850-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1319,+1800-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P1326,+1832-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P1480,Q5727902
Work location
Leipzig (1803–) Edit this at Wikidata
Authority file
artist QS:P170,Q30302326
image of artwork listed in title parameter on this page
Title
Portrait of Ludwig van Beethoven
label QS:Len,"Portrait of Ludwig van Beethoven"
Object type painting
object_type QS:P31,Q3305213
Date 1801
date QS:P571,+1801-00-00T00:00:00Z/9
Medium painting
UnknownUnknown
Notes

This is perhaps not a good image to use in Beethoven articles

I have never been able to find a source verifying that this picture is authentic. Here is a bit of background. The Beethoven-Haus in Bonn, an authoritative source, gives a picture of an engraving (black and white) that looks rather like this picture. They say it is an engraved portrait made by Riedel "based on an earlier drawing from Vienna portrait artist Gandolph Ernst Stainhauser." You can see this engraving at their website: [1] (and we have a copy of it here on the Commons; see above).

The image above is colored -- who did this? -- and I think it is also much more flattering than the engraving displayed by the Beethoven-Haus (wide eyes, trimmed eyebrows, little smile, rosy cheeks). Could it be a long-post-Beethoven sentimentalized version of the Riedel engraving? Certainly there is precedent for this kind of falsification. And the hypothesis that it is a post-lifetime sentimentalized portrait would explain why it displays a handsome young man when contemporary testimony (see Beethoven-Haus link) tells us that Beethoven was quite ugly.

On the Beethoven page of the English Wikipedia I polled other editors about removing this image from article, and they felt it would be ok, so am gradually removing it from the English Wikipedia, and replacing it with the engraving. I would not presume to edit other Wikipedias. Opus33 (talk) 02:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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Portrait of Beethoven as a young man by Carl Traugott Riedel (1769–1832).

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